NEW YORK, NY.- On a December evening in a rehearsal studio on the western edge of Manhattans garment district, Eddie Izzard was chatting about audience assumptions that her solo performance of Charles Dickens Great Expectations would be a comic take on the classic Victorian coming-of-age tale.
Theres about four jokes in it, she said.
Still, even the way Izzard uttered that sentence was funny: dryly dismissive, with the briefest pause as she calculated the paltry figure. Izzard has, after all, made her name in comedy. And however firmly she might draw a line between Eddie Izzard the stand-up and Eddie Izzard the actor the British Broadway veteran who was a Tony Award nominee in 2003, for A Day in the Death of Joe Egg they are of course one and the same, operating in different yet overlapping modes.
In Great Expectations, in previews for a recent opening at the Greenwich House Theater in Greenwich Village, Izzard pulls moments of levity from the very air. Playing the orphaned Pip, the forsaken Miss Havisham, the alluring Estella, the desperate Magwitch and 15 or so others, she brings her own arch humor to a multiple-character technique that she ascribes not to some drama theorist but to comedian Richard Pryor, a virtuoso of the crowded solo stage.
When, in rehearsal that evening, Izzard worried aloud about her Pip blocking the audiences view of Miss Havisham who at that moment in the scene was quite invisible, as was Estella beside her it was all about leaving room for the spectators imaginations to fill in the blanks.
Over the phone later, the shows director, Selina Cadell, laughed warmly as she said: I think Eddie looks after the invisible characters better than I do.
Great Expectations begins Christmas Eve, and Dickens did love a Christmas story. But its saga stretches over years, and Izzard says the holiday timing of the plays run in New York scheduled to continue through Feb. 11 is accidental.
Unlike Jefferson Mays solo performance of A Christmas Carol, currently on Broadway, Izzards Great Expectations has almost nothing in the way of scenery, aside from the velvet curtains of its wooden-floored set, and certainly no whiz-bang, high-tech projections.
This is pure storytelling, Izzard said after rehearsal. Ive always said that drama is like a main meal, and comedy is like a dessert. We love desserts. But the main meal has all different tastes, the savory and the sweets and everything.
At 60, she is ready to dig in and to demonstrate what shes capable of.
Drama is something Ive always wanted to do from the beginning, and just went a long way round to get to it, said Izzard, who lately has been preparing a one-woman Hamlet with Cadell. In such multicharacter solo shows, Izzard finds her own gender fluidity helpful.
I love the fact that Im playing male characters and female characters in this, she said. And I hope that Dickens might think it was OK.
Izzard is fond of noting that the novelist, in his lifetime, used to travel to New York to give public readings. This Great Expectations began with readings, too, as Izzard did what she calls work-in-progress performances, initially in 2019 at the Edinburgh Festival Fringe. The streamlined adaptation is by her older brother, Mark Izzard, though when Eddie suggested the project to him, she meant for them to work on the script together.
I went back and read the book and got started, Mark said by phone, all practicality, and found out later that Eddie was too busy to do anything. So I just pushed on.
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Back in the rehearsal room, Eddie pulled out her phone and scrolled, seeking a photo from the summer of 2020: a time-capsule image of an early pandemic performance. It shows her in a red dress, doing Great Expectations for a socially distanced audience on a wind-whipped rooftop in the south of England, using a hand-held microphone.
I said, This is exactly how Dickens planned it, she deadpanned.
THEATER REHEARSAL ROOMS are workaday spaces, and people tend to dress accordingly. Almost no one looks glamorous, let alone devastatingly so. But that evening in early December, Izzard did, in a tailored black jacket over onyx tights, with a splash of color in the few fluttery inches of floral-print skirt a very British touch peeking out beneath the jacket hem. On her feet were a stunning pair of tall, lace-up, high-heeled black boots: a part of her costume that she wanted to get used to wearing.
If you are trans, its probably better to be fairly well put together, she said, and sighed at the difference between taking meticulous care with her appearance and throwing on any old thing, as she said a person can do if you look devastatingly feminine. Female. I mean, Marilyn Monroe wore a potato sack at one point in a photo shoot.
Let the record show, though, that Izzard was not just fairly well, but magnificently, tastefully put together. If youve seen the 2009 documentary Believe: The Eddie Izzard Story, which includes a short section ridiculing her historical lack of fashion sense when it came to standard-issue guy clothes, you will recognize this as a sartorial leap forward.
About her pronouns, when I asked, she said: Prefer she/her, dont mind he/him, so no one can get it wrong.
It was such a breezy, practiced statement that I thought she was done until she added: And I didnt change them. The world changed them.
Whats this?
I was on a program. They said, Do you want she/her or he/him? I went, Ahh, oh, she. Id been thinking of changing them. And then the program went out, and the whole world changed them. Two days. She made a sound effect like a series of detonations.
All news outlets, particularly in America and Britain, where Im known probably the strongest another sound effect, this one a whoosh and Australia and Canada and New Zealand, where Im also known a sound effect like a rapid whir She/her now. And I went, Oh, OK.
It wasnt that she merely went along with it, but she was surprised at the sweeping abruptness with which her pronouns were adopted.
I thought it was a great honor, she said. Ive been promoted promoted to she. Thats how it was. But I didnt actively have a campaign about it. It just happened. You know, I came out 37 years ago. Some people grumble. I say, well, how much notice do you need? Thirty-eight years? Thirty-nine years?
Coming out is an inherently political act, and Izzard is a political creature. In American terms, she described herself as a Democrat, but at home she is a longtime member of the Labour Party and this fall had hoped to become its candidate for an open seat in Parliament. That bid failed this month, though not before drawing what The Guardian newspaper called a barrage of abuse, with both Conservative and Labour politicians publicly making transphobic remarks.
But Izzard said that increased mainstream awareness of transgender people and transgender issues has made life easier since she came out in 1985, when she described herself as transvestite language that, she noted, has since evolved.
We were considered non-people, or toxic people, she said. And I realized that my job is to try and knit being trans into society. We had a hard time just trying to exist.
She went on: A lot of people have been wonderfully accepting, and young people are very open and great. Some people are still transphobic, but she took a deep breath, then finished the sentence more quietly I just ignore them.
CADELL FIRST met Izzard about two decades ago, when agent Nicki van Gelder asked Cadell, who is also an actor, to coach Izzard for a film role.
Izzard loves acting for the big screen loves that movies can capture forever what she called that lightning in a bottle that is a beautiful performance, loves having played Edward VII to Judi Denchs Queen Victoria in Victoria & Abdul, loves having been in both Oceans Twelve and Oceans Thirteen, even in small roles.
But when I asked Cadell what makes Izzard tick as an actor, she mentioned the live-performance dynamic between Izzard and a crowd.
I think she is someone who loves that present moment with an audience. It electrifies her imagination, Cadell said. Laughter is very important to Eddie. I also think that Eddie is driven to try everything she feels is, in some way, challenging. But I think she keenly understands the relationship of a performer with an audience, which I adore.
Izzard was only 6 when her mother died in 1968. After that, her widowed father sent her and her brother to boarding school. In Believe, the documentary, there is a sweet moment when a former headmaster recalls a teddy bear show that young Eddie put on at the foot of her bed, using a bathrobe as the stage curtain.
A couple of years later, when the school did a production of Oliver!, the Oliver Twist musical that Izzard remembers as her first Dickens, she begged to be cast but was assigned to play the clarinet in the orchestra. (Recalling this, she burst into snatches of songs shed yearned to sing: Oliver! Oliver! and Got to pick a pocket or two, boys, youve got to pick a pocket or two.)
The same thing happened with The Pirates of Penzance, for which she would have been happy to play either a pirate or a girl. She was 17 when she got her first dramatic role as Ernst Ludwig, the Nazi, in Cabaret and dyed her hair jet black to play it.
So acting, in her growing-up years, was mostly just dreamed of, and a passion for Dickens didnt take root in a child who was dyslexic and not a big reader, but also enthralled with astronauts and all things 20th-century American.
Great Expectations came into Izzards life when she asked her agents to find someone to hire her to make an audiobook of a Dickens novel because she had noticed that audiobooks were taking off, she wanted to read a great work of literature, and she and Dickens share a birthday, 150 years apart.
Izzards audiobook of Great Expectations, which is more than 20 hours long, was released in 2018. In Izzards mind, there was always going to be a stage version as a companion piece though she had envisioned the audiobook as the primary element. She says it didnt occur to her initially that once she got the live performance down, it could remain permanently in her repertoire. Its running time, rather more accessible than the books: about two hours, intermission included.
LISTEN CLOSELY to peoples memories, and sometimes you hear their ambitions underneath. Here is Izzard remembering the night she lost the Tony to Brian Dennehy, and found herself in the company of some other acting nominees.
I was standing next to Stanley Tucci and Philip Seymour Hoffman, she said. I thought, Im in this group? This is the group that didnt get the Tony? She whispered the next bit, savoringly: This is a good group to be in.
Nearly 20 years later, she knows that some people continue to write her off as solely a comedian, not also an actor. She knows that acting gets a different kind of respect than comedy.
I think my dramatic work now has got really to an interesting place, a place where I dont quite know where its going to go, Izzard said.
She intends to keep pushing with it as she finds out.
For now, that means donning those glorious boots downtown at Greenwich House, channeling Pip and company. Digging into the main meal that is her acting, shell be sharing it only with the audience.
This article originally appeared in
The New York Times.